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      Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      Maybe dumb question, but just wondering if anyone who has a pet with both Steal Charm maycasts can speak to their experience or if anyone with maycast knowledge can confirm if the maycast rate stacks (rather than the second maycast being redundant on the same pet)?

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      Re: Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      from a person that has worked and quested with such traits i find maycast whatever although awesome when the stars align and they chime in generally speaking unless i am fighting a specialty boss i prefer cards or damage traits... this being said i still always choose a pet which MIGHT help with ... darkmoore .... key boss ... who ever ... may casts odds have been nerfed to the point that i dont think they are a practical choice ... i am all about WILL CASTS these days with damage ... o and to address the stacking aspects each trait is independent from each other and does not affect their rate of manifesting and if a pet has a card and trait they are treated as the same thing so a pet that has for example a blade card and a may cast blade they do not stack .. just my opinion but i do have a very nice minstrel with card and traits made specifically for shane in darkmoore if your interested
      Last edited by Erin Pet Wiz; 10-4-23 at 9:27:37 AM.

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      Re: Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>Erin Pet Wiz View Post
      from a person that has worked and quested with such traits i find maycast whatever although awesome when the stars align and they chime in generally speaking unless i am fighting a specialty boss i prefer cards or damage traits... this being said i still always choose a pet which MIGHT help with ... darkmoore .... key boss ... who ever ... may casts odds have been nerfed to the point that i dont think they are a practical choice ... i am all about WILL CASTS these days with damage ... o and to address the stacking aspects each trait is independent from each other and does not affect their rate of manifesting and if a pet has a card and trait they are treated as the same thing so a pet that has for example a blade card and a may cast blade they do not stack .. just my opinion but i do have a very nice minstrel with card and traits made specifically for shane in darkmoore if your interested
      Thanks for the advice! I was actually considering just going with a Steal Blade Trained or Shatter Trained talent instead as well.

      Although, what about auras? I heard they have by far the best maycast rates (like ~40%). Since crit is of no interest to me anymore, and the 3% damage talents are pretty negligible, I was considering something like triple damage, spell proof, Galvanized Field maycast, and a will cast for my Storm (level 38)

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      Re: Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>streckster98 View Post
      Thanks for the advice! I was actually considering just going with a Steal Blade Trained or Shatter Trained talent instead as well.

      Although, what about auras? I heard they have by far the best maycast rates (like ~40%). Since crit is of no interest to me anymore, and the 3% damage talents are pretty negligible, I was considering something like triple damage, spell proof, Galvanized Field maycast, and a will cast for my Storm (level 38)
      ah yes ... sounds like you want my grove unicorn named kitty now in kiosk ... thank me later

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      Re: Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      Can't say anything about steal blade/charm, but one of my wizards has a deckathalon pet named Scruffy Gracie (A piggle I just added to the kiosk) that has this:



      And ONE time, it cast both the maycast attack spells on the SAME TURN. You can't have two WILLCAST attack spells on the same pet, but you can have two MAYCAST attack spells on it. I have also seen, many times, a pet with two or more maycast heal spells cast multiple heals the same turn.

      On a side note, recently I even saw an opponent cast a mass blade, and my pet that had a maycast steal blade stole the blade off of the opponent in the first spot (not the one who cast the mass blade spell in the first place).

      So I suppose that if the opponent cast a spell that put more than one blade on the same person (like an elemental blade), both maycast steal spells could trigger.
      Last edited by sparkyflamefire; 10-4-23 at 5:58:12 PM.

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      Re: Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      As Erin mentioned, all Maycasts seem to work sporadically anymore. I've a pet with similar talents to what you're going for (Clean Charm and Clean Ward) and I could probably count on one hand the amount times it has actually worked. Several years ago KI, because of complaints from the community, tightened up how heals cast. In my opinion, it wasn't just heals but every may cast. Since then, I've built my pets primarily for resistance and damage.

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      Re: Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>Erin Pet Wiz View Post
      ah yes ... sounds like you want my grove unicorn named kitty now in kiosk ... thank me later
      Two more quick things. One, do you happen to know Storm Front's trigger (Darkwind maycast)? I heard it was any single target spell but unsure if that's correct or includes targeting yourself with blades and whatnot.

      Two, do you know how maycast rates vary by spell? Is there anything you can add or correct to what I have heard so far:
      • Auras are high
      • Globals are average
      • Blades, traps, steals, and debuffs are low
      • Krogers are super low
      • Heals vary

      Also I'm sorry if you added Kitty to the kiosk just for me cuz I don't actually have the glowbug pet (or maybe that 2-pip Shatter golem) I want those talents on yet. Thanks anyway tho!
      Last edited by streckster98; 10-4-23 at 9:05:41 PM.

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      Re: Do Steal Blade + Steal Charm maycasts on same pet cast more reliably?

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>streckster98 View Post
      Two more quick things. One, do you happen to know Storm Front's trigger (Darkwind maycast)? I heard it was any single target spell but unsure if that's correct or includes targeting yourself with blades and whatnot.

      Two, do you know how maycast rates vary by spell? Is there anything you can add or correct to what I have heard so far:
      • Auras are high
      • Globals are average
      • Blades, traps, steals, and debuffs are low
      • Krogers are super low
      • Heals vary

      Also I'm sorry if you added Kitty to the kiosk just for me cuz I don't actually have the glowbug pet (or maybe that 2-pip Shatter golem) I want those talents on yet. Thanks anyway tho!
      these days i am more layed back on my entertainment and am not the one to ask about stats and numbers ... all i can offer is my personal experiences in game over the last 14 years ... being once the library of one of the main hatching teams i always keep 115 finished pets in kiosk to pass it forward so really all i have left to offer is my good wishes and may the spiral be ever in your favor ... peace out

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