Progress Towards a Badge

[sparkyflamefire]

Why is it that most badges show progress towards a badge, but a few do not?

For example, I am at 507 out of 1000 towards Magnanimous Pet lender. At 4 lends per day, it will take me about 4 more months to get the badge.

On the other hand, I am at (blank) towards Hatching Grandmaster (1000 hatches). I do have Hatching Master, so I know I have over 100 hatches, but I don't know whether I will get Grandmaster on my very next hatch or, at 1 hatch per day (Not a member), I might still be over a year, or two, away from it.

Is there any way that progress towards Hatching Grandmaster, or other badges that do not show progress towards, could be updated so that progress towards could be displayed when you check your badge list?

[Sierra SeaSong]

They released it broken and never fixed it, bugs me to no end, I have no idea how close or far I am from 1k. Can not imagine that is too hard to fix.

[Dylan Windwalker]

It's the "Good enough" mentality. It's always been like that. While I can't say for sure whether or not this is true but it's definitely been a trend. If a sufficient amount of something works as it should, then the designers shift to the next task and leaving the rest for patches in the future. This means that the Ki Designers intentionally update the game under the assumption that they're not to complete their updates and make them perfect. There's ZERO sense of quality assurance because they always think that future patches will make up for what they've gotten wrong or what needs to be fixed. But at the end of the day too many patches need to be made, so much that the designers simply cannot address all of them. The fact that progress isn't implemented in these badges is possibly because a "good enough" amount of badges have progress and they're simply tossing the fact that progress needs to be shown in those that don't have it, into the pile of "patches to be done" that will never be done.

There's always going to be this half baked notion in ALL Wizard101 updates unless they change this mentality. They need to refine their updates as though there should not be any patches, make it one done and perfect rather than "oh this is good enough" and "we'll fix that later" (something something empty promises)

[sparkyflamefire]

I had reported this as a bug to Customer (Non) Support, referencing this thread, and finally got a response:


@Sparck, and all you others who do (rarely) respond to posts here, is this true? Seems to me that YOU do some level of monitoring. Or was this just one of those things that you didn't bother passing along because it doesn't have a big enough impact on gameplay, and you know that (Non) Support wouldn't bother "wasting" their time fixing such a minor bug that has been around FOREVER? As @Dylan Windwalker said, the product is "good enough." Not fixing a bug because not enough people complain about it is NOT okay, it's the sign of a SHODDY product.



Is this just another typical case of the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?

Not to mention that NON-MEMBERS, like me, cannot post to Halston's Laboratory or any of the other "official" forums they suggest I use. As I have told (Non) Support a hundred times, when I got a similar (non) response when reporting other bugs.

[Sierra SeaSong]

They barely respond in their own forums, and I have never once gotten anything from their twitter.


The "community" as they seem to see it these days are the content creators, that's all.

[AluraMist]

I had reported this as a bug to Customer (Non) Support, referencing this thread, and finally got a response:


@Sparck, and all you others who do (rarely) respond to posts here, is this true? Seems to me that YOU do some level of monitoring. Or was this just one of those things that you didn't bother passing along because it doesn't have a big enough impact on gameplay, and you know that (Non) Support wouldn't bother "wasting" their time fixing such a minor bug that has been around FOREVER? As @Dylan Windwalker said, the product is "good enough." Not fixing a bug because not enough people complain about it is NOT okay, it's the sign of a SHODDY product.



Is this just another typical case of the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?

Not to mention that NON-MEMBERS, like me, cannot post to Halston's Laboratory or any of the other "official" forums they suggest I use. As I have told (Non) Support a hundred times, when I got a similar (non) response when reporting other bugs.

They barely respond in their own forums, and I have never once gotten anything from their twitter.


The "community" as they seem to see it these days are the content creators, that's all.

From what I see, there is definitely a lack of communication all around. The different departments/teams or whatever they have, do not seem to talk to each other. As far as posting on the Wizard101 website/forums, I get responses that say something like "thanks for bringing this up. We will be sure to pass it on ..." Months later, no reply anywhere. And yes, some KI employees (devs or whatever) do communicate with a select few players. Is this the new norm? It doesn't seem to be working if it is.

AluraMist

[sparkyflamefire]

On a separate issue, in the recently concluded pet promenade 4 of my wizards received 5 tokens but the other 2 only received 4 tokens. I couldn't care less about 1 token, which I'll probably never use anyway. What I care about is the shoddiness it represents, and that the idea of "wasting" time troubleshooting and fixing such a minor bug is so anathema to the developers that, in a recent similar instance, they tried claiming that the randomness of the reward drop was intentional.

Refer to: https://www.wizard101central.com/for...r-Every-Wizard

I submitted that as a bug as well (Which I have done MANY times in the past, but the bug has never been fixed and nothing was ever heard again other than that "It was referred to the developers."). And here is the response to that one:



Once again telling me to post somewhere I cannot, not being a member. And I don't do Twitter. And even if I did, Haven't they already "referred" it to those same developers?

"Our game makers and community manager do take player reports very seriously"??? By dropping bug reports into the black hole of "referring it to our developers," never to be heard from again?

Five (5) months now I've been pestering them for an answer to a simple yes/no question which they refuse to do.

[AluraMist]

I posted my reply, copied below, because of recent encounters I had, especially with Support again. I still feel that there is a lack of communication between the different areas/teams at KI, and there is a lack of 'follow through' with postings on the Wizard101 website Message Boards. But I also want to take the time to acknowledge that there were times when KI and their Teams did work together and sort out issues/problems.

For me, one outstanding issue was related to the lack of 'stats/bonuses' on the Any Level gear in the Bundle Gift Cards. Details are explained in this thread: "Any Level" gear in Bundles and Packs have "no stats"?.

In particular, @Eric Stormbringer did reach out to ask for details on the impact of stats/bonuses (or lack of them) on that gear. Eric worked with his Team and a decision was made to keep those stats/bonuses status quo. This is a prime example of 'how things should work'. Thank you again, Eric Stormbringer and @Sparck.

AluraMist

From what I see, there is definitely a lack of communication all around. The different departments/teams or whatever they have, do not seem to talk to each other. As far as posting on the Wizard101 website/forums, I get responses that say something like "thanks for bringing this up. We will be sure to pass it on ..." Months later, no reply anywhere. And yes, some KI employees (devs or whatever) do communicate with a select few players. Is this the new norm? It doesn't seem to be working if it is.

AluraMist

[Willowdreamer]

On a separate issue, in the recently concluded pet promenade 4 of my wizards received 5 tokens but the other 2 only received 4 tokens. I couldn't care less about 1 token, which I'll probably never use anyway. What I care about is the shoddiness it represents, and that the idea of "wasting" time troubleshooting and fixing such a minor bug is so anathema to the developers that, in a recent similar instance, they tried claiming that the randomness of the reward drop was intentional.

Refer to: https://www.wizard101central.com/for...r-Every-Wizard

Since reading that thread, I've been noticing the same results on my own wizards. I believe that some of these "missing" tokens could be the various school Seed Farmer tokens that @Sparck was supposed to be looking into for us. Without an actual answer back from him in the same thread, we are left to wonder or just shrug and move on.

[Sparck]

For the Pet Promenade points, you should always get at least 4 with a chance to get up to 6.