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    1. #1
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        Starbreaker is offline Legendary Wizard

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      How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      Have you ever made a maycast pet perhaps a multi heal pet and it virtually never healed you? Have you ever took that same pet moved it over to another wizard and like magic it seems to heal spam like crazy for no reason. What if when we make a wizard it assigned numerical values that affect everything from drop rates to amount whether a pet you made will actually heal you, or even if you critical more then the average person with less then average critical? What if told you that there seems to be proof that if a wizard was born with a numerical disadvantage they seem to struggle more at certain game aspects then others. What if the moment a pet hatches it not just given 10 random talents between parents it also get a pedigree score that affects it may cast ability. What if this number have to match a certain number in a set of numbers to have the best oppertunity to cast. In other words. Your wizard number could be 1-10 let say 1-5 in this case mean low cast rate starting at a stated %. But on the other end 6-10 has a elevated rate. Same value given to your pet. Let say your wizard was given 8 but your pet was given a 5? This can give your wizard lower cast rate. But on the flip side you move said pet to another wizard with a lower digit (3) but because there in the same group it like a magical pairing which mean it would have above average cast rate. Have you ever noticed that one of your wizard get everything but another wizard can't even get a good reagent? What if that due to your wizard having a below average number for drops? What if everything is affected by what your wizard was given at the time of creation! Dun Dun Duh!

    2. #2
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        Dylan Windwalker is offline Legendary Wizard

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        •  Dylan Windwalker, Valerian JadeBlade, Scot WaterWielder, Seth DreamDreamer
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        •  130
        •  World:
        •  Empyrea
        •  Wizard's School:
        •  Balance
        •  Pet's Name:
        •  Lord Lillie
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        •  Enchanted Armament
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      I personally think it is legitimately random. However, Ki is constantly manipulating the denominator of occurrences of just about everything they could possibly make random The denominator itself is not at all random but rather based on an extensive algorithm that makes it so that players are constantly farming (doing things that makes Ki more money) and every now and then, there's a lowered denominator that makes it very likely that the individual will get what Ki already knows what the player is looking for (a high priority item). This makes it so that other players will become even more influenced into farming or spending more of their time playing.

      Or something like that, I'm not much of a math guy...

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    3. #3
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        Starbreaker is offline Legendary Wizard

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        •  Gabriel Shadow blade
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        •  25
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        •  MarleyBone
        •  Wizard's School:
        •  Fire
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        •  N/a
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      Quote Originally Posted by Dylan Windwalker View Post
      I personally think it is legitimately random. However, Ki is constantly manipulating the denominator of occurrences of just about everything they could possibly make random The denominator itself is not at all random but rather based on an extensive algorithm that makes it so that players are constantly farming (doing things that makes Ki more money) and every now and then, there's a lowered denominator that makes it very likely that the individual will get what Ki already knows what the player is looking for (a high priority item). This makes it so that other players will become even more influenced into farming or spending more of their time playing.

      Or something like that, I'm not much of a math guy...
      Still seems weird to me that one wizard you luck can be crappy in so many areas while on others it like it raining in one area or the next. And even Maycast are often given aprox and not exact if the chance of a even happening is 12.587% why can't they say this? it still would be a number virtually rounded up to 13% or down to 12% depending on the program used. The same sort of numbers is given when it comes to loot roles. They may say about 5% again if you put a exact number then it should be pretty accurate unless there are X factors that can raise or lower that expected %. Maybe the myth's players have about drops are actual corrrect example killing in a set amount of rounds. Or not getting the pearl in ww. Perhaps we been lied to to continue the grind reguardless the cost.

    4. #4
        sparkfiredust is offline Apprentice Wizard

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        •  69
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        •  Celestia
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        •  Life
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        •  Kitty
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        •  Wintry Elf
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      I'd even say there's more evidence of rigged luck. When I ran temple of storms (Krokopatra) and Rooftop, theoretically there was a 10-15% drop rate per run.

      However, the instant one run dropped an exalted duel or wooden key, the next run would have a 50% chance to drop a 2nd duel or key. I guess this is some kind of lottery or gambling mechanic. But anyways, every time they dropped a good item, I would make sure to rerun the dungeon a 2nd time, and a high amount of the time the dungeon would drop the item again. KI probably implemented luck chaining. As well as other gimmicky luck mechanics. Pretty sure luck chaining and other luck factors play into ghulture farming.


      Edit: Also, finite drop pool. Was farming mimic for loot like amber and seeds. In my first 4 runs (mobs+bosses), I got 2 CP. Then for like 10 runs after that, I only got 1 CP. Pretty obvious the pool was diminishing. Like how grizzleheim couch potatoes are 'confirmed' to have a diminishing pool of seeds, only to replenish on monday.
      Last edited by sparkfiredust; 5-11-21 at 3:13:03 AM.

    5. #5
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        Phenoixblizzard is offline Adept Wizard

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        •  130
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        •  Wizard City
        •  Wizard's School:
        •  Ice
        •  Pet's Name:
        •  Fern
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        •  Mega Snow Beast
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      Sometimes my pet will spam heals on my myth wiz and other times he won't. I have noticed that he LOVES using his buff minion maycast a ton, especially on my life wiz. My death wiz doesn't have it casted on her often like my life wiz. I'm kinda wondering how often it's supposed to cast, especially when my myth hasn't summoned a minion.
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        richardDkht is offline Journeyman Wizard
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      no i'm sure there is a guy at ki that spend their days and nights manually fiddling with numbers behind each and every account to make sure you miss THAT important trigger, be it a critical drop, a lifesaver heal, and so on.

      They are that twisted down that lane...
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        Kokyota is offline Adept Wizard

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        •  Iridian, Neela, Jaz, Jr, Sari
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        •  130
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        •  Empyrea
        •  Wizard's School:
        •  Life
        •  Pet's Name:
        •  Way too many to name
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        •  Crazy Creatures
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      Quote Originally Posted by richardDkht View Post
      no i'm sure there is a guy at ki that spend their days and nights manually fiddling with numbers behind each and every account to make sure you miss THAT important trigger, be it a critical drop, a lifesaver heal, and so on.

      They are that twisted down that lane...
      I totally agree.



    8. #8
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        Evil Lurker is offline Master Wizard

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        •  Jared Windbreaker
        •  Wizard's Level:
        •  92
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        •  Azteca
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        •  Fire
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        •  LuLu
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      After thousands of hours in game:

      Drops change based on realm.
      Drops have a pool per realm.
      Drops increase for 12 to 24 hours after an update.
      Drops increase after downtime on days when the pool refills.
      Drops vary per wizard, some are "luckier" than other.
      Weekends are the worst time for farming.
      Drops vary depending on the number of rounds in a dual, too few the game sees the wizard as OP, and nerfs them. There is a sweet spot, and then they go down from there.
      Pack drops are fire 6 hours after they go into the crown shop, after 12, garbage.
      Pets have a unique hidden "may cast" rate that is independent of stats.
      Pet "may cast" talents have unique hidden triggers, such as an incoming attack from a particular school, wand hit, blade cast, so on and so forth.
      Last edited by Evil Lurker; 5-11-21 at 8:28:21 PM.

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        Happy Fun Ball is offline Grandmaster Wizard
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      Re: How random is random really in this game? (Conspiracy theory)

      There is no random, only Murphy's Law.

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