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      Re: A warning about using exploits

      Quote Originally Posted by Cosmos View Post
      Stacking is still considered a tolerated exploit.
      This right here is why we need a list. If some glitches are OK to use but some aren't you shouldn't have to guess which ones will get you banned.
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      Re: A warning about using exploits

      Quote Originally Posted by Robobot1747 View Post
      This right here is why we need a list. If some glitches are OK to use but some aren't you shouldn't have to guess which ones will get you banned.
      I volunteer Robobot to start the list of allowable exploits. If it ain't on the list, DON'T DO IT.



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      Re: A warning about using exploits

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      I volunteer Robobot to start the list of allowable exploits. If it ain't on the list, DON'T DO IT.



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      Convince KI to give me absolute power over the determination of what is and isn't an exploit and you'll have that list sometime tomorrow.
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      Re: A warning about using exploits

      Quote Originally Posted by Robobot1747 View Post
      This right here is why we need a list. If some glitches are OK to use but some aren't you shouldn't have to guess which ones will get you banned.
      Fair enough. No one should have to dig through forums from 10 years ago to find Greyrose's post regarding stacking. Though I'm hard-pressed to think of anything other than stacking that would be on that list.
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      Re: A warning about using exploits

      Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see stacking stopped (with no retroactive ban) as well. Plant stacking was/is only tolerated because to patch it would also require patching general house glitching.

      House glitching is one of the best examples of a bug that turned into a feature, and that's especially true now that we have Advanced Move, which essentially lets you do all the same stuff much more easily. Advanced Move all but obsoletes house glitching, so they now have an out to get rid of the plant exploit without ruining creative builds.

      And as I mentioned before, they absolutely couldn't ban for it because it's so widely known and used at this point that the ban wave would be monumentally damaging. I could see a grace period being given to destroy stacked gardens, though.

      I'm not advocating for any action against plant stacking. I've used it myself plenty and it saved me a lot of time. I'm just looking at the fact that they've introduced a feature that would allow them to get rid of it.

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      Re: A warning about using exploits

      Quote Originally Posted by Robobot1747 View Post
      Convince KI to give me absolute power over the determination of what is and isn't an exploit and you'll have that list sometime tomorrow.
      Are you giving me something to do?



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      Re: A warning about using exploits

      My understanding when it came to things like plant stacking is that they're "at your own risk." So while it's tolerated, should you have any issues with gardens or plants or losing items or whatever, KingsIsle will be unable to assist you.

      Those who have been around for awhile know my stance on data-mining. I realize people like it, but it takes away the power from KingsIsle to do their own marketing and determine the most effective release dates for information to generate excitement about their products. You have to remember that they have a marketing team with internal statistics that we do not. We as the player base will never be able to more effectively determine what information drops are good for sales the way KingsIsle can. Of course whether or not we like data-mined spoilers or whether or not they're good for anything is completely irrelevant - it's the fact that they're violating the ToS, plain and simple. That's the end of the discussion really. We are rewarding rule-breaking and handing some level of power or popularity to "content creators" who are violating KI's terms of use.

      I understand the concerns for the Wiki because I do believe data-mined information has at times been used to fill in Wiki pages, which is not only problematic sourcing, but also potentially inaccurate as things change. It's a tricky business.

      I will say that the number one thing people like about data-mining is what they've stated - hype, filling in gaps in information, etc. And some of these are valid points, but the solution is not so much data-mined content as it is transparency and communication from KingsIsle. I think as KingsIsle chooses to be more engaged or share more teasers, and to make their policies and practices crystal clear, that will diminish the appeal of data-mined content.
      Last edited by Swordroll; 3-20-21 at 3:10:48 PM.

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