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      Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      So after a four year break, I decided to log on and catch up with some friends and found myself at the kiosk.

      In the past I have documented any pet projects that I did in hopes that it would help others out. There are already some great guides that have been written years ago that I believe are relevant so I'm not looking at re-doing those, rather I am looking at exploring what impact the kiosk has had, if any, to the hatching process.

      Some rules:

      1. Can only use kiosk pets
      2. Cannot use the same pet twice (that would be similar to copying imo)
      3. Stats not relevant
      4. Pet type not relevant
      5. No self hatching, all hatches to be done via the kiosk with whatever pets are available at the time
      6. No elixirs
      7. project will be considered completed when I have an epic pet that has all 4 talents below.


      Starting pet, 1st gen wizard city pet

      Project talents will be

      1. proof
      2. defy
      3. sprite
      4. pain giver

      (I've chosen these talents as they are generic and would be most beneficial to people of any school that are just starting their journey with pets )


      I'll document decisions I make, why I hatch with one pet and not another, and include all successes and failures, that way people can get an idea of the approximate gil cost and snack cost

      Hope people enjoy the project as much as I will.

      Cheers
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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      Sounds like an interesting project. I look forward to seeing what you find out of all of it. I've gotten a few good pets out of the kiosk and a few otherwise. Personally, I've found that if you don't hatch with the same pet, or, a pet with all the same talents showing, you end up with a smattering of who knows what on your baby. That makes it a total chore to try and sort everything out and make anything decent.

      Good luck with your project.

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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      What an interesting project! I'm fairly new to hatching and have only ever tried "copying", so would be curious to see how you might go about gathering talents from different pets, and in particular your explanation for hatching with one pet over another.

      Thank you for taking the time to do this, and good luck!

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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      Welcome back @Sophia Spellforge! Nice to see you again

      Very interesting project idea and I look forward to your findings!
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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      DAY 1


      I started the project today and the biggest decision I had to make was whether I hatch with a pet that has just one of the talents I wanted or do I go for broke and hatch with one that has all the talents in my list.

      After much thought (ummm 5 mins over coffee ) decision to hatch with a pet that had only one talent that I wanted was quickly dismissed as that meant that I would get a second talent that I didn't want. I did a quick search just to make sure that I was on the right track and looked for any pets with pain-giver and there were many of those, but the second talent could pretty much have been anything. So this particular road led me to a dead end. So that was easy enough!

      Next, decision to make - Is a pet with 2 talents that I need a better hatch than one that has all four talents on my list.

      Based on my past experience on hatching, I figured I needed to get the new talents into my pet as quickly as possible. Also, four/five years ago that combination was pretty popular, so my thought was that there would be many pets to select from.

      Was I wrong! I had only 1 option of a pet with all four talents showing - Buddy the Life Minotaur

      I went ahead and hatched with Buddy for two reasons. First it had all the talents I needed, so I increased my chances of a) transferring the talents and then b) having them popped. Secondly, the hatch was cheap.

      - Just a note, the biggest difference between this project and past projects that Ive worked on, was that I did not assume I knew what was in the pool with the new pet. As I had no history of buddy's ancestry, I was not going to second guess the talent pool. I would train to adult, unless I got a fail. With past projects where I knew the pool, there were many instances where pets would not be trained up as talents had not transferred.

      Results:

      My Starting pet

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      The Search

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      The hatch and result

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      So the Day 1 hatch was a fail at teen. I will be hatching Patch again with a pet in the kiosk, hopefully there will be another pet with all four talents to hatch with, fingers crossed.


      Many thnx David1822 (Avi) Kat (Sig)


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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      Adding the option to search for talents on pets is a very recent option to the Kiosk, and in my opinion, the best thing they ever did. Before, you had to search endlessly for what you were after.

      Since its introduction, I've hatched several Kiosk pets and have found that if I can find one I like and can keep hatching with it (like hatching with another individual) I've had pretty good results. If on the other hand I need to hatch with a different pet because the one I liked isn't available any longer; fails early on are quite prevalent. The gene pool you end up with is such a mishmash, it turns into just random hatching. That's my two cents worth anyhow.

      Oh and you need cronuts with your coffee when mulling things over.

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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      Woot woot go Sophia! I tried doing that myself and could not make the pet easily at all. Way too many hatches for my liking. Hope you have better luck.

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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>*Erin* View Post
      Woot woot go Sophia! I tried doing that myself and could not make the pet easily at all. Way too many hatches for my liking. Hope you have better luck.
      Oooh should've gotten in touch with you before I posted my hair brain project, but then I would've missed out on all the fun...can't have that! Great to see you're still around Erin


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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      Day 2: Hatch

      So I'm thinking there must've been a bug on the first day, as I was given more pets to hatch with today. Having said that, I was also given the option to hatch with many mega pets as well, which I ignored as many of them has school specific talents and I was also not wanting a talent that wasn't on my wish list to pop.

      One of the reasons I didn't hatch with a mega pet was that down the track I could be put in a position to take a pet to mega just to get a talent that I wanted. For example, one of the pets I saw had my four talents + infallible. I got pretty excited as this is useful for all classes, however, say down the track I had an epic pet, and it had infallible, defy, sprite and pain-giver, I have several options.

      1) rehatch till proof appears, thus guaranteeing the talent. This would mean more gold, snacks, time before I got the pet I was after.
      2) socket the proof jewel even if the pet fails at mega (my issue is that I am not on a world where I can farm this, plus I hate farming for hours)
      3) I use my snacks and get to mega (which could be a failure)

      Its cheaper to fail at epic and go back to ancient, than to fail at mega and start at epic. So mega pets were ignored.

      For my second pet, I chose a burning dryad as I didnt have this pet in my collection. However, I regretted it instantly the minute I saw the 20 hour hatch time.... So, when considering pet types, and you want to make this process quicker, make sure you check the wiki and use pets that hatch in 5 min...

      On a positive note, I can see all the talents transferred and I now have added a new pet to my collection

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      Not sure if this would be possible, but it would be great to be able to search for pets according to what level they are, adult vs ancient etc...


      Many thnx David1822 (Avi) Kat (Sig)


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      Re: Does the hatching process change if using the kiosk? A project

      I woke up this morning, excitement at a maximum (coffee will do that to people) and I was absolutely certain that today was the day...the day when I would see a wanted talent appear...I had a new pet type, increase in stats, all the talents had transferred. It was all there!

      Drum roll.....

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      Bleh! The only thing wise about this was how quickly this pet was retired

      So onto the day 3 hatch. I was back to having only 1 option to hatch with and several mega pets that were rejected.


      DAY 3:

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      Ok so this one was a different. So, far that talents that have popped have been ones that were shown on my first dragon, this time I had a talent that hadn't appeared on either pet. This is not unusual, so people shouldm't get discouraged, its just part of what happens in the hatching process.

      So in a nutshell, this hatch was a little more expensive than the other two this was because the pedigree was significantly higher. Having said that, I am still under the 30k mark for each hatch.

      Something else that was interesting, if you compare the stats (numbers) gained on the new pet, you can clearly see that numbers can come from either parents, can be split or be lower than those of both parents. So if you are ever developing a max stat pet, these are your possibilities.

      Can't wait for the next hatch.
      Last edited by Sophia Spellforge; 1-6-20 at 6:42:07 PM.


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