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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Quote Originally Posted by Alric Hawkthorn View Post
      I want to rule out the whole idea of "Wizard101 Needs money to pay there staff!" Most of the staff comes from KingIsle, if you go on KingIsle website you will find something that says "Jobs" they have about two jobs they are asking to be filled, IF they were hurting that bad they would find someone else that is already working for them to fill these jobs, I think they are doing fine, One thing I have noticed is that they have copied about 45% content of toontown, I am guessing they think that they can copy the price since they use some of toontown's things. From what I can see KingIsle has only made one game that being Wizard101. They problay haven't had much experince in not charging people amounts of money for a game that isn't developed yet. Wizard101 I am sure is getting some money from members, and KingIsle has money to use, I don't think that they are just needing money they are just charging us more money than needs to be charged.

      Do you have any idea what it takes to develop an MMO? The cheapest MMO's require investments of at least 10 million dollars. Where do you think this money came from, the sky? Sure, everyone at KingsIsle is getting payed, but who is paying them? That job usually falls to the CEO if they don't have any investors/publishers, which they don't.

      "Wizard101 I am sure is getting some money from members" - How can you make this statement, that is complete rubbish sir, I'm sorry. Members? Why would anyone in the beta be donating money to the game when they've been playing for free. Even if they are donating, I doubt that amount could even come close to covering 1% of he initial cost of the game.

      45% content from toontown... that's a rash generalization. I tried both and for some reason ToonTown just doesn't have the same quality feel as Wizard101.

      So why are they charging money? Well the CEO invested a large amount of money into the creation and development of the game, so the hope of any business is to sell the product enough to where you cover up the initial investment and eventually make a profit. In this case the profit would likely go towards developing more content for Wizard101 and developing more games.
      Anything worth fighting for, is worth fighting dirty for.

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Quote Originally Posted by Quantize View Post
      Do you have any idea what it takes to develop an MMO? The cheapest MMO's require investments of at least 10 million dollars. Where do you think this money came from, the sky? Sure, everyone at KingsIsle is getting payed, but who is paying them? That job usually falls to the CEO if they don't have any investors/publishers, which they don't.

      "Wizard101 I am sure is getting some money from members" - How can you make this statement, that is complete rubbish sir, I'm sorry. Members? Why would anyone in the beta be donating money to the game when they've been playing for free. Even if they are donating, I doubt that amount could even come close to covering 1% of he initial cost of the game.

      45% content from toontown... that's a rash generalization. I tried both and for some reason ToonTown just doesn't have the same quality feel as Wizard101.

      So why are they charging money? Well the CEO invested a large amount of money into the creation and development of the game, so the hope of any business is to sell the product enough to where you cover up the initial investment and eventually make a profit. In this case the profit would likely go towards developing more content for Wizard101 and developing more games.
      At least somebody makes sense. If they put just a cash shop, not many people might buy stuff.(NOTE:I am NOT saying cash shops don't make alot of money. Look at maplestory.)

      They probably want 10 million players before they make it free and have just a cash shop.

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Its bullet time. When I make points about stuff because there are two different sides to everything



      • Let me start off by saying that Ten dollars is not an appropraite price for this game. Yes Quantize, making this game was pricy, but W101 and Toontown are different in many ways.
      • Alric is right when he says that 45% of the things are Toontown.
      • I think that the cash shop is the best idea. I would buy crowns, because I know this game needs support. If the cash shop doesn't work out, then they can go to subscribing memberships. Great, I don't care
      • Sabrina, I notice that you say they have to take money in somehow. This is very true. That is what the crown shop is for


      These are my thoughts. You can fight me on them if you want
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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      I agree with everything Emily said. Of course they have to pay their workers! The crown shops have great stuff so people will want them.

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      If it's 45% like Toontown,
      Where's the Gags?
      The Laff points?
      The Jelly Beans
      Donald's Dreamland?
      Goofy Speedway?
      Toon hq?
      The dogs, cats, mice, horses, and all the other species in Toontown.
      Please specify how EXACTLY it is like Toontown, please.

      And let me remind you Toontown still has a ton of bugs. It has been open for more than 6 years but look at all the glitches and bugs. I played it for a couple months, subscribed, and unsubscribed. Sure, It has tons of content, but Quality or Quantity?

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
      Its bullet time. When I make points about stuff because there are two different sides to everything



      • Let me start off by saying that Ten dollars is not an appropraite price for this game. Yes Quantize, making this game was pricy, but W101 and Toontown are different in many ways.
      • Alric is right when he says that 45% of the things are Toontown.
      • I think that the cash shop is the best idea. I would buy crowns, because I know this game needs support. If the cash shop doesn't work out, then they can go to subscribing memberships. Great, I don't care
      • Sabrina, I notice that you say they have to take money in somehow. This is very true. That is what the crown shop is for

      These are my thoughts. You can fight me on them if you want
      Most of the people who are complaining about the subscription don't want to spend money-- they won't buy items from a mall either. They just want the game for free, which isn't possible.

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
      Its bullet time. When I make points about stuff because there are two different sides to everything

      These are my thoughts. You can fight me on them if you want
      No fighting. With this, I think it's important to agree to disagree in some areas, and know that all of our opinions are valid.

      This topic is open for discussion, let's keep it that way please.

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Quote Originally Posted by cisthebest View Post
      If it's 45% like Toontown,
      Where's the Gags?
      Our spells.
      The Laff points?
      Our health
      The Jelly Beans
      Our gold
      Donald's Dreamland?
      Moo Shu.
      Comments in bold blue.

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Quote Originally Posted by Sabrina View Post
      Most of the people who are complaining about the subscription don't want to spend money-- they won't buy items from a mall either. They just want the game for free, which isn't possible.
      So true. They won't spend money, they just want it free.

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      Re: Pricing Model Announcement

      Quote Originally Posted by LadyNightOwl View Post
      No fighting. With this, I think it's important to agree to disagree in some areas, and know that all of our opinions are valid.

      This topic is open for discussion, let's keep it that way please.
      I agree! :D
      As long as we keep it clean, may we continue?

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