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    Thread: Grammar Goof


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      Grammar Goof

      I know English language grammar rules are definitely confusing to a lot of people. No one likes to have errors pointed out, but for many of us, seeing improper usage can be frustrating - and no, I am not an English teacher.

      In the quest Mind Sweep in Lemuria, there is one of the more jarring grammar goofs I come across -- it's like fingernails on a blackboard to me -- the classic pronoun confusion, me or I?

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      This should have been "ME." Without the Wizard, it would have been "Let me handle this." When including "the Wizard and" the pronoun should not change.

      I don't expect this to be fixed as it's more than just a typo, but it's something to remember for future reference.


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      Re: Grammar Goof

      I understand this mistake.

      However, Iím also guilty as charged. My grammar is atrocious, as @Willowdreamer knows, having to read it almost every day.

      I promise to try to do better!

      Last edited by Arwen Mythweaver; 1-14-22 at 11:52:09 AM. Reason: Grammar
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      Re: Grammar Goof

      Quote Originally Posted by Arwen Mythweaver View Post
      I understand this mistake.

      However, Iím also guilty as charged. My grammar is atrocious, as @Willowdreamer knows, having to read it almost every day.

      I promise to try to do better!

      It's one of those things that has become super common, so I'm probably holding on to a declining standard. Like using the word "ain't" used to be really frowned upon, but these days it's simply the vernacular.

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      Re: Grammar Goof

      Not that anyone cares, but...

      ...the sentence used is a command, with (You) as the "understood" subject.

      "I" is used as the subject of a sentence.
      "me" is the object of a sentence.

      One way to deal with this is what I taught my students: use "I" at the start of a sentence and "me" at or near the end. A very rough rule, but it helped some of the little buggers...


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      Re: Grammar Goof

      I was always taught about this, that if you use THE WIZARD AND ME: that the person was being disrespectful or ignorant, because life is not always about ME.

      Using THE WIZARD AND I: That someone else might be better than myself (I), therefore yielding to another is sometimes the best option.

      In regards to the Heap, Shadoe wants us to use wisdom or battle to gain the respect of others; therefore the second usage works better with the coding of the game.

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      Last edited by Oxnhorse; 1-14-22 at 2:37:26 PM.

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      Re: Grammar Goof

      Quote Originally Posted by Oxnhorse View Post
      I was always taught about this, that if you use THE WIZARD AND ME: that the person was being disrespectful or ignorant, because life is not always about ME.

      Using THE WIZARD AND I: That someone else might be better than myself (I), therefore yielding to another is sometimes the best option.

      In regards to the Heap, Shadoe wants us to use wisdom or battle to gain the respect of others; therefore the second usage works better with the coding of the game.

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      Actually, what you were taught was to use "The Wizard and I" putting the other person first as a measure of politeness....

      ...but only as the subject of a sentence. In the object (of a sentence or preposition), it's "me". And, as is typical with languages including English, usages vary and change. Me'm sure you can agree with I.


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      Re: Grammar Goof

      Quote Originally Posted by Willowdreamer View Post
      It's one of those things that has become super common, so I'm probably holding on to a declining standard. Like using the word "ain't" used to be really frowned upon, but these days it's simply the vernacular.
      I am a stickler for grammar as well. Obviously this varies by school, but as far as I can tell it really isn't taught much anymore. I've just had one kid graduate from HS and 2 juniors and the amount of formal grammar instruction they've had is negligible. Thankfully, they took Latin all the way through. They say that taught them more about grammar than all their English classes combined. They also hear and are required to use proper grammar (and table manners, UGH don't get me started) at home. I feel lucky I can do that for them.

      Unfortunately, we're both holding on to a declining standard -- but some things are still worth doing. I remember the admonishments for "ain't" as well as the "can of peaches, can of pears..." when I didn't use "May I?" to request to do something. You may also remember the expression (and I can still hear my grandmother's lilting voice): There are five little words that work like keys: may I, thank you, and please. Well, google doesn't even return that phrase as a result when you search for it.

      Kudos to those who still try to be civilized :D
      Last edited by ValdusWildheart; 1-15-22 at 11:06:08 AM.

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