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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stormbringer View Post
      Yes sacrifices needed to be made just as how when we switched to DM gear from crafted gear you lose your elemental resist, some critical, a lot of extra accuracy etc. That being said:

      -I gained damage from my lvl 100 set-up
      -If you drop the lustrous opals you will drop block only about 4%- In fact I was considering doing that to replace it with stun block chance but opted for more block since my school's health buffer is so dismal.
      -Mastery Amulet has not been viable since the Amulet of Divine Influence.
      -Agreed on the triangle jewel-I lost one potential slot since at lvl 100 I had to use one slot anyway to max out my stats

      Every school except Ice gains perfect accuracy from Malistaire gear and the accuracy deficit can be easily addressed via pet(that's what I did for my PvP set-up).

      Agreed on limited block options for below lvl 100.
      If you gained damage from your level 100 set-up, then you weren't using as much damage as you could have been at level 100. In consideration to the build you presented, you could have had more damage from athame and pet if you didn't opt for other useful talents.

      The pierce/resist amulets did not offer so much that the mastery amulets had become obsolete. Mastery amulets still greatly increase available options for many builds. Granted, storm never had as many reasons to go for a mastery as other schools.

      The thing about the sacrifices is it's in many ways to get back to the relative block we had before. The only other thing gained would be health, and I'm not sure it's enough to offset the other losses.

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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stormbringer View Post

      Yeah I tend to emphasize the defense a bit on my storm since I like to solo.
      lol I am the complete opposite, all I care about is damage... XD

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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by LoneWiz View Post
      Also, even 100+, perfect pet and getting the DM drops and the right jewel drops and the right pack drops -- all of which we all know is easier said than done.

      Let's see the perfect setup with no luck involved. Crafting is allowed because anyone can go back and run the crafting quests if they haven't already but let's take out the luck of getting the perfect pet and the DM drops and then see how perfect your gear is. I'll even allow crown gear though that's not really right since it gets pricey at the high levels and not everyone can afford it. So crafted and bazaar/gold gear. How well you going to do? Because a lot of people do have to depend on crafted and bazaar.

      Far as I'm concerned perfect pet is luck. Took me a year and a half. You can increase the odds by picking the right parents but there's still luck, not skill, involved. Failed at mega is a thing in this game. An all too common thing.
      If you remove 100% of the luck factor, you're left with bazaar gear and whatever item cards you can get on a pet. Crafting requires a little luck too, ya know.
      "Fire can be quenched. Storms can dissipate. Myths can simply be forgotten. But Death... Death is constant. Death has existed long before you came to be and it will exist long after it takes you."

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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stormbringer View Post
      If you are going to remove the best gear in the game from the equation then yes you will drop stats-otherwise said gear would not be the best in the game.
      So this game has become luck-based then? So much for skill.

      Quote Originally Posted by Robobot1747 View Post
      If you remove 100% of the luck factor, you're left with bazaar gear and whatever item cards you can get on a pet. Crafting requires a little luck too, ya know.
      Other than the jewels, crafting is pretty straight-forward. Some reagents are rare and hard to get. But, again, just saying what others have been -- this game has become purely luck based. No wonder PvP is dead.

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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Thank you soo much for this picture of stats. It's exactly why the game is so broken :D

      A a school focused on only damage can now achieve high block and the accuracy de-buff is made up for. WHILE STILL HAVE STATS THAT FIT BEST THEIR ROLE: High damage and pierce. Every flaws is made up for except maybe health and honestly, low health or high health doesn't really matter anymore.

      Other than storm, the next closest to perfect school would be ice/fire. Ice who tanks can now have high damage and even outstanding pierces. While still hold 7k health and 50+ resist. Perfect isn't it? I wish I had an ice.

      Let's look at life, school that focuses on healing, but sadly can't be a perfect school. They either pick the flaw of having low damage or healing boost. Woo go life. Maybe it wasn't so broken back then since critical makes up for the lack of healing boosts. Now, it's all over.
      "Time to switch game" I would say.
      Wiz have has its peak, now it's just downhill from here. I would love to see where this game would be in a year.

      COME ON PIRATE! BOOK 15 ALREADY AND TAKE MY MONEY.



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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by LoneWiz View Post
      So this game has become luck-based then? So much for skill.



      Other than the jewels, crafting is pretty straight-forward. Some reagents are rare and hard to get. But, again, just saying what others have been -- this game has become purely luck based. No wonder PvP is dead.
      Farming for the best gear in the game has been here since the dragonspyre update. It's nothing new and it certainly isn't unique to wizard 101.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Asian Power View Post
      Thank you soo much for this picture of stats. It's exactly why the game is so broken :D

      A a school focused on only damage can now achieve high block and the accuracy de-buff is made up for. WHILE STILL HAVE STATS THAT FIT BEST THEIR ROLE: High damage and pierce. Every flaws is made up for except maybe health and honestly, low health or high health doesn't really matter anymore.

      Other than storm, the next closest to perfect school would be ice/fire. Ice who tanks can now have high damage and even outstanding pierces. While still hold 7k health and 50+ resist. Perfect isn't it? I wish I had an ice.

      Let's look at life, school that focuses on healing, but sadly can't be a perfect school. They either pick the flaw of having low damage or healing boost. Woo go life. Maybe it wasn't so broken back then since critical makes up for the lack of healing boosts. Now, it's all over.
      "Time to switch game" I would say.
      Wiz have has its peak, now it's just downhill from here. I would love to see where this game would be in a year.

      COME ON PIRATE! BOOK 15 ALREADY AND TAKE MY MONEY.

      Er-Health does not matter? Have you ever done any PvP like ever? That being said life can have perfect stats as well. It can have a higher offensive than ice, higher defenses than storm- while still maintaining the healing advantage it gains from spells.

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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stormbringer View Post
      After finally completing my sets for both PvP and PvE I decided to create this thread to display the stats achieved and the gear used to make them. Each Piece of Gear will also have where it was acquired to facilitate easy acquisition.

      Bold- Farmed
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      PvP
      Attachment 534451 Attachment 534452

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      Hat- Malistaire's Cowl of Flux(Darkmoor-Malistaire)
      Robe- Malistaire's Cloak of Flux(Darkmoor-Malistaire)
      Boots- Malistaire's Boots of Flux(Darkmoor-Malistaire)
      Wand- Staff of the Dragon's Maw(Darkmoor-Malistaire)
      Athame- Duelist's Fatal Razor LvL 110(PvP Arena Vendor-Brandon Mistborn)
      Amulet- Chillvenom's Maelstrom Charm(Horizon Hold-The Rat)
      Ring- Duelist's Daredevil Ring LvL 100(PvP Arena Vendor-Brandon Mistborn)
      Deck- Rasputin's Hand of Tumult(Horizon Hold-The Rat)
      Pet- Defender, Pain Giver, Spell Proof, Storm Dealer, Storm Giver, Storm Sniper Ultra Jewel
      Jewels-Polished Piercing Amethyst x3, Lustrous Health Opal x3, Lustrous Pip Opal x2, Lustrous Blocking Opal x3



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      Hat- Malistaire's Cowl of Flux(Darkmoor-Malistaire)
      Robe- Malistaire's Cloak of Flux(Darkmoor-Malistaire)
      Boots- Malistaire's Boots of Flux(Darkmoor-Malistaire)
      Wand- Fortune Teller's Eternal Gaze LvL 110(Terror's Hoard Pack)
      Athame- Ivan's Blade of Gales(Statue Garden-Baba Yaga)
      Amulet- Chillvenom's Maelstrom Charm(Horizon Hold-The Rat)
      Ring- Alpha and Omega Ring(Mount Olympus-Gladiator Dimachaerus)
      Deck- Rasputin's Hand of Tumult(Horizon Hold-The Rat)
      Pet- MC Balanceblade, Pain Giver, Spell Proof, Energizing Battery, Storm Giver, Storm Dealer Ultra Jewel
      Jewels-Polished Piercing Amethyst x3, Lustrous Health Opal x3, Lustrous Pip Opal x2, Lustrous Blocking Opal x2
      The word perfect implies no flaws and i know for a fact since you keep claiming storms are under powered in 1v1 that it must surely still be flawed cause there is no way a storm can possibly win in a pvp match with their large attack and crit.

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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by jacobspirit View Post
      The word perfect implies no flaws and i know for a fact since you keep claiming storms are under powered in 1v1 that it must surely still be flawed cause there is no way a storm can possibly win in a pvp match with their large attack and crit.
      Perfection is indeed relative as you have noted.

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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stormbringer View Post
      Farming for the best gear in the game has been here since the dragonspyre update. It's nothing new and it certainly isn't unique to wizard 101.

      - - - Updated - - -



      Er-Health does not matter? Have you ever done any PvP like ever? That being said life can have perfect stats as well. It can have a higher offensive than ice, higher defenses than storm- while still maintaining the healing advantage it gains from spells.
      Have I done pvp ever? well let's see. I have gotten the first age warlord badge. Wait I also have gotten the second age warlord badge. Wait I also have gotten over 20 k tickets on tournaments due to wasting on mounts and sets. Also, I am counting my trophies, I got a few first place in 1v1, and 1 first in 2v2. A lot of second in 1v1, but I fed it to pet(this is all from memory when tourney was free, I did not get on to count exactly how many I got). So Have I Pvp? Idk, you tell me.

      The real question is, have you understood my previous post completely?

      First, I would like to say maybe I worded my sentences weirdly and got on the wrong side. When I say health is not really that important; I mean it's not a deal breaker. It sure does play major roles in pvp but it's not a deal breaker. Like block, pips, and damage would be a deal breaker. It is hard or very hard to choose new gears if those stats were lowered. Health on the other hand, I can careless if I lose like 500 health from changing from one gear to another. Great example, I use Hades robe instead of Malistaire because Hades gives block and pierces; they are very important. But Hades have less damage health and even resist. Those are not as important as block. You won't go pick new gears base on the health it give right? SO that's what I really try put out there when I said health is not important.

      Secondly, The question I stated. Maybe I should have been more clear on it. When I mentioned perfect stats, I do not mean having good all round stats, aka average stats of 100+ damage, 40+ resist, and etc.

      Perfect stats to me is you have stats that is well enough to cover all of your flaws as a school.

      Examples:

      Storm is a very offensive school, in return they must suffer low accuracy and other defensive stats. How do I know this? The trend created by KI.

      With current gears and pets, a storm not only will no longer suffer low accuracy but also have decent health and amazingly defensive stats.

      Now life, yes life can have all around stats I mentioned above. In fact, I have all of the stats I listed above as a lvl 110 life.

      But the current gears does not let life do what it's best at; healing. Current healing boost is not enough to heal a good amount to counter taken damages, or so it seem to me. That wasn't a problem before new critical system, since life used to be able to have above 60% of critical to get crits on heals to make up for the lack of healing boosts. The critical is not too much that life will be op and was not too little for it to be useless. That was when life had perfect stats. It had enough stats to do what it is best at and still have all round stats. BUT NOW new crit system made my critical from a 60%-70% - dropped to around 30%, maybe even less. Now since life can no longer have the crit it used to have to cover for the lack of healing boost, it became a non perfect school.

      That is my view on perfect stats. When a school have all round stats and can still do best of what it's school are best at. Life- heal, Ice- tank, Storm- Damage, and etc.

      Like someone mentioned before, everyone have their own perfect stat visions(
      @PinkPenguienlover101 ). Yours may just be all round stats and disagree with me. While mine takes more considerate of the ability of each school.
      Last edited by Asian Power; 12-9-15 at 10:07:23 PM. Reason: Because of how bad I am with typing and made 10000+ typos


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      Re: Perfect Meta Adjusted Stats for PvP and PvE- An Illustration

      Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stormbringer View Post
      Farming for the best gear in the game has been here since the dragonspyre update. It's nothing new and it certainly isn't unique to wizard 101.
      Actually, crown gear has been comparable and so has crafted if you don't care about universal stats. (I do. Or did. Won't be spending any more money on crown and sure still am not willing to farm so I will be crafting.)

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