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      Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      Do you want to know how much resist your pet will give you from spell proof?

      The actual value you get from talents like spell proof that go up as you train is a decimal number, which KI rounds for display. So your 10% spell proof pet may not be giving you exactly 10% resist. And you shouldn't worry about whether your pet just missed getting 10% spell proof, because really, you just missed going from 9.4% to 9.5%. Not such a big deal.

      Talents that go up increase linearly with stat1+ stat2 + half of power
      If you mouse over the stats they tell you which talents they affect.

      Pet resist from spell proof depends on strength + agility + 1/2 power
      For every 62.5 increase in this sum you get another 1% resist from spell proof.

      So your total resist from spell proof is (strength + agility + 1/2 power)/62.5

      You can see that this equation is correct if you watch your pet as you train it. When spell proof increases by 1%, that means you just went, for example, from 4.4% to 4.5%. Check the equation or the table below for your current stats and it should show your pet at or just over 4.5%.

      This table shows various strength+agility+1/2 power and the spell proof resist you get from it. I am not sure if KI rounds it the same, so it could be off by one:

      219 3.5% Displays as 4%
      250 4% Real 4%
      281 4.5% Displays as 5%
      313 5% Real 5%
      344 5.5%
      375 6%
      406 6.5%
      438 7%
      469 7.5%
      500 8%
      531 8.5%
      563 9%
      594 9.5%
      625 10% Maximum possible without any selfish boosts
      656 10.5%
      688 11%
      719 11.5% Displays as 12%
      725 11.6% Maximum possible with two selfish boosts that affect strength and/or agility

      You can check the actual resist you have from pets or any source using 1000 damage bolts in the practice arena. Make sure the person bolting you isn't getting any gear boosts and you don't have any other resist gear.

      I don't have the exact value for spell defying, but the resist is about half of what you get for spell proof.

      Mods, I would appreciate if you could sticky this thread, I was inspired to post this after answering this same question 5 times in the past week. I won't be giving individual responses anymore. There is also a lot of misinformation being posted about this which I hope can be cleared up.

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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      I heard that Spell Proof = Strength + Agility + Power divided by 72. I might be wrong, but that's what I heard.
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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      i need a pet with spell proof don't really care about the math work out
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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      Since power helps all the scalable talents, and the other stats only help half of the talents, it makes sense that it only counts half as much to each talent. And this was evident when I worked out the equation for health gift last summer. It's easier to see if you look at talents that are easier to follow because they increase more often, like health gift. People who didn't do that probably don't realize that power only counts for half.

      Health gift depends on agility+will+1/2 power. For every 5 increase in that sum, you get 1 health. So, the equation for health gift is

      health = (agility + will + 1/2 power)/5

      You can easily check my and alternative equations as you train your pet, whenever you see an increase in spell proof, and if you do, I think you will find that the one I gave is correct.

      Here is some data I analyzed with this equation. Notice that even though some of these pets are very close to the point where spell proof jumps up by 1 on the display, the equation correctly predicts the display for every pet:

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>dragoneyone View Post
      345.5 6% resist, one of my pigs in training 345.5/62.5 = 5.52
      410 7% resist, one of my pigs in training 410/62.5 = 6.56
      502.5 8% resist, non hatched defender pig with no selfish talents 502.5/62.5 = 8.04
      564.5 9% resist, one of my pigs 564.5/62.5 = 9.032
      627.5 10% resist, pig of mcsneaky 627.5/62.5 = 10.04
      715 11% resist, pig of zamalash 715/62.5 = 11.44
      655.5 10% resist, hydra of Hidrac 655.5/62.5 = 10.488


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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      The actual equation is Strength+Agility+Power. Then divide that sum by 3. Lastly divide that by 24.
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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>dragoneyone View Post

      So your total resist from spell proof is (strength + agility + 1/2 power)/62.5
      This equation is correct, I know a number of people have researched it fairly thoroughly and we have integrated these equations into the Central Wiki pages for each respective talent. Talents Category

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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      Quote Originally Posted by <strong>dragoneyone View Post
      Do you want to know how much resist your pet will give you from spell proof?

      The actual value you get from talents like spell proof that go up as you train is a decimal number, which KI rounds for display. So your 10% spell proof pet may not be giving you exactly 10% resist. And you shouldn't worry about whether your pet just missed getting 10% spell proof, because really, you just missed going from 9.4% to 9.5%. Not such a big deal.

      Talents that go up increase linearly with stat1+ stat2 + half of power
      If you mouse over the stats they tell you which talents they affect.

      Pet resist from spell proof depends on strength + agility + 1/2 power
      For every 62.5 increase in this sum you get another 1% resist from spell proof.

      So your total resist from spell proof is (strength + agility + 1/2 power)/62.5

      You can see that this equation is correct if you watch your pet as you train it. When spell proof increases by 1%, that means you just went, for example, from 4.4% to 4.5%. Check the equation or the table below for your current stats and it should show your pet at or just over 4.5%.

      This table shows various strength+agility+1/2 power and the spell proof resist you get from it. I am not sure if KI rounds it the same, so it could be off by one:

      219 3.5% Displays as 4%
      250 4% Real 4%
      281 4.5% Displays as 5%
      313 5% Real 5%
      344 5.5%
      375 6%
      406 6.5%
      438 7%
      469 7.5%
      500 8%
      531 8.5%
      563 9%
      594 9.5%
      625 10% Maximum possible without any selfish boosts
      656 10.5%
      688 11%
      719 11.5% Displays as 12%
      725 11.6% Maximum possible with two selfish boosts that affect strength and/or agility

      You can check the actual resist you have from pets or any source using 1000 damage bolts in the practice arena. Make sure the person bolting you isn't getting any gear boosts and you don't have any other resist gear.

      I don't have the exact value for spell defying, but the resist is about half of what you get for spell proof.

      Mods, I would appreciate if you could sticky this thread, I was inspired to post this after answering this same question 5 times in the past week. I won't be giving individual responses anymore. There is also a lot of misinformation being posted about this which I hope can be cleared up.


      ---------- Post added at 06:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:24 AM ----------

      Hey can anyone tell me how to get your pet for spell-proof? I have a strange beast pet and i don't know how to get the talent spell-proof. Can anyone help me? THANKS

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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      Might I add that you can use the spell proof formula to firgure out a pets spell defying too. The spell defying rounds up at the whole numbers. This is how it wouls look
      2.5= 3 proof, 1 defy
      3.0= 3 proof, 2 defy
      3.5= 4 proof, 2 defy
      4.0= 4 proof, 3 defy

      Ext.

      The max defy is 6.

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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      Thanks man, I didnt know about the resist being in smaler inrements than hole %s. Now i will work on a max stat pet, not just one that shows 10%.

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      Re: Spell proof: How much resist your pet will get

      Wow, cool! Thanks :P
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